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Apple Music unveiled Zane Lowe’s new interview with Kid Cudi, who is currently promoting his latest body of work, “INSANO,” a 21-song effort with collaborations alongside the likes of Travis Scott, Lil Wayne, Young Thug, Lil Yachty and ASAP Rocky.

Cudi opened up about his relationship with friend and collaborator Kanye West, revealing that the two are on good terms again.

“[T]he reason why we became cool again is because [Ye] apologised to me and it was sincere,” the “INSANO” rapper told Zane Lowe. ”I was just like, wow. Kanye does not apologise to anybody and say sorry to anyone. And that’s my brother, man. I know he loves me and there’s just nothing like Kanye and Cudi. We like the duo that everybody loves to see.”

Cudi explained although West may not be able to redeem himself in the eyes of many, he continues to pray for and for the growth of someone he sees as his brother.

“I know that in his soul there is a good man there because I’ve seen it and you don’t give up on people. He’s learning and he’s growing. He knows he made some mistakes and I think that that’s the beauty of it, is this is a beautiful thing.”

The Cleveland rapper also revealed that Ye championed him very early on his career, “and did things for me that nobody else did” when he was young.

“People don’t even know that Kanye paid for the first day and night video when I didn’t have a deal. This was like, he needs a video, so I’m a pay for it,” he explained. “Guy saw me to shoot it, saw me the first director. Didn’t know me, but was sure just doing a favor and so shit like that.”

“Siblings hurt you the most,” he added. “So you go through things, but family is always there. You don’t give up on family. And I think in the thick of it, when it was going down, I wanted to walk away. I wanted to give up, but in thinking about it the past couple years, it’s like this is someone who is my brother[.]“

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